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Patrick Wall
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I'm currently grading student essays, and one of the tools is behaving strangely.
 
It's the little blue pointer-dot:  

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When I hover over the student essay, I see not only the dot but also a set of numbers, which appear to be the horizontal and vertical coordinates of the location: 

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I've never seen this before, and it's mildly annoying.
 
Is everyone experiencing the same thing?
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Topic starter Posted : October 27, 2021 3:01 pm
Aaron Garner
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Patrick,

How are you grading these - Speed Grader?  Maybe a screenshot of the page you are on would help.  I don't recall seeing that icon.

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Posted : October 27, 2021 3:07 pm
Vivie Sinou
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I had to google this one! 😀 

It looks like it's part of SpeedGrader's annotation functionality: Point Annotation

--- from Wayne University's website -----

SpeedGrader allows you to annotate document submissions. If students have submitted using the Text Entry option, you will not be able to annotate their submissions. You can limit submission types when building Assignments.

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The annotation tools from left to right are:

1. Selection: Select portions of the text.
2. Point Annotation: Choose a point within the text. This then offers the option to
comment.
3. Highlight: Highlight portions of the text. A comment button appears allowing you to add a comment to the annotation.
4. Text: Leave text comments directly in the document.
5. Strikeout Text: Put a line through text in the document.
6. Draw: Leave freehand drawings and annotations.
7. Area: Creates a box around a selected portion of the text and allows you to leave a
comment.

This Canvas Guide on Annotating student submissions in SpeedGrader gives detailed
instructions on using each of these annotation tools.

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Posted : October 27, 2021 3:33 pm
Patrick Wall
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Yes, that's the tool. It now shows horizontal and vertical coordinates. I don't know how to attach a screenshot to this reply.

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Posted : October 27, 2021 3:44 pm
Vivie Sinou
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@@patrick-wall - You can use the screen capture tool from your computer and paste it in your reply here. 

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Posted : October 27, 2021 3:47 pm
Patrick+Wall
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Until last night,the"point annotation" symbol was just a blue pointer. However, now it comes with a set of horizontal and vertical coordinates which change as I move the pointer around the page. Screenshot attached.

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Posted : October 27, 2021 5:40 pm
Aaron Garner
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Okay, I see what you're talking about.  I'm guessing those are pixel numbers that allow the user to zero in on an exact point on the document.  I'm not sure how they would be useful because you can see where you are clicking to annotate.

Aaron

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Posted : October 27, 2021 7:15 pm
Patrick+Wall
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Exactly. I don't know if I did something to cause these numbers to appear or if Canvas revised their software, but I'm not hearing about anyone else seeing the numbers. Not a big deal! Just an annoyance.

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Posted : October 27, 2021 10:25 pm
Patrick+Wall
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I'm trying to post this question to the Canvas Community, but just now I got this error message:

An Unexpected Error has occurred.
Your request failed. Please contact your system administrator and provide the date and time you received the error and this Exception ID: 37FF74E2.

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Posted : October 28, 2021 11:32 am
Vivie Sinou
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Patrick,

Try contacting Canvas support. 

Go to help on the left menu of Canvas >> Faculty Help Portal >> Contact support.

We pay for phone faculty support from them and 24/7 liveChat. See what they have to say.

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Posted : October 28, 2021 11:43 am
Aaron Garner
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I actually already contacted them and they verified that it was pixel coordinates.

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Posted : October 28, 2021 1:05 pm
Patrick+Wall
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Yes, I've been chatting with them all morning. They say that displaying these coordinates is NORMAL. However, I've never seen them before. I'm trying to find out if I accidentally turned on some kind of accommodation tool for disabled students.

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Posted : October 28, 2021 1:08 pm
Aaron Garner
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I have the numbers and so did the Canvas tech person.  It's something that was added at some point.

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Posted : October 28, 2021 3:09 pm
Patrick+Wall
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Yes, the change was made THIS WEEK. As an English instructor, I use the SpeedGrader practically every day.
However, my Canvas Tech person was unaware of any changes and certainly had no idea why the numbers might be present.

Thanks for checking on your end, Aaron.

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Posted : October 28, 2021 9:06 pm
John Cavano
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I'm having the same coordinates appear on the annotation tool. I do not believe it has anything to do with accessibility. Most blind users do not use a mouse and I'm not sure how people with other types of disabilities would benefit from this. I looked at my Canvas profile settings to see if there was an integration that was causing this, but nothing stood out. If you continue to get an error posting this to the Canvas Community, I'll try posting it, too. Sorry this is happening. 

John Cavano, OTR/L, ATP

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Posted : October 29, 2021 9:24 am
Aaron Garner
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@john-cavano I just got off the phone with Canvas Tech support and she found the updated documentation on that tool.  It actually is for accessibility.  Since blind people don't generally use a mouse, I wonder what they were thinking? Could those coordinate numbers be recognized by a screen reader?

This is her response via email.

Our documentation says that this is intended, and was created to give users a visual queue so that they know where the Point Annotation is being placed in relation to the text layer of their document.

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Posted : October 29, 2021 10:01 am
John Cavano
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Thank you for speaking with tech support about this, @aaron-garner! I still don't think the coordinates are for accessibility. The screen reader I was using didn't speak the coordinates when I moved or clicked the mouse. 

I just posted this question in the Canvas Community. @patrick-wall or @aaron-garner or anyone, please add to it if needed:

Canvas Community - Turn off point annotation coordinates

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John Cavano, OTR/L, ATP

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Posted : October 29, 2021 12:10 pm
Aaron Garner
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@john-cavano That's interesting.  I guess these numbers are still a mystery.  Although they don't affect anything, now I'm getting obsessed with finding the answer.  Wink  

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Posted : October 29, 2021 1:13 pm
Aaron Garner
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I just received this statement from Canvas tech gurus.

Our documentation says that this is intended, and was created to give users a visual queue so that they know where the Point Annotation is being placed in relation to the text layer of their document.

 

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Posted : November 1, 2021 10:01 am
Patrick+Wall
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Thanks again, Aaron! Their answer is a great example of gobbledygook.

I still prefer your observation: “I'm not sure how they would be useful because you can see where you are clicking to annotate.”

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Posted : November 1, 2021 11:59 am

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